Dance in the Vampire Bund

[Arch-Defender]

FUNimation was relluctant to release the show unedited at first but they made the limited edition that is not edited so I was wandering, I live in Canada, Québec, is this show legal here.

[Sora N]

I don’t know about Canadian laws; however, both releases of Dance in the Vampire Bund are going to be uncut and in a DVD/Blu-Ray combo pack. FUNi is just releasing a limited edition that comes with a special artbox (that is the only difference between the two releases.)

From ANN:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...e-bund-in-june

Anime retailer Right Stuf currently lists a June 14 release for a Dance in the Vampire Bund DVD/Blu-ray Complete Series combo from Funimation, who has confirmed with ANN that the release will be unedited. The suggested retail price for the limited edition release is US$69.98; the regular edition will cost US$64.98.

[ninemil]

Canada would have to be pretty repressed for a show like Bund to be illegal - heavily rated perhaps, but illegal? I doubt it.

For anyone who watched the show but hasn't been following the manga, it's worth noting that the paper-based release has been awesome of late - it's such a shame that once again, Shaft opted to diverge from the official manga canon. There's so much scope for a second season already, and Akira's history with Angie, Graham and Sanin rocks very hard indeed :/

[Jatz]

Doc Watson might know the legality of lolicon in Canada. You can ask him when he gets back.

[Arch-Defender]

I know this show is not lolicon because it is not pornographic and sold in the US.

[ninemil]

Originally Posted by animefanworried

I know this show is not lolicon because it is not pornographic and sold in the US.

Hmm, I'd correct that as far as pointing out that there certainly are lolicon elements, and not a small amount of nudity, but their tone and presentation rarely step any darker than Kirsten Dunst's Claudia from ‘Interview with...’ To be blunt, Bund is probably one of the cleverest, best presented mangas I've come across in a good ten years, but there’s definitely enough there in the anime and paperback version that those who wish to be offended, will find cause to be so. As much as I love Nozomu’s creation, you wouldn’t read it on the bus to work, lol.

[Jatz]

Originally Posted by animefanworried

I know this show is not lolicon because it is not pornographic and sold in the US.

It's not pornographic, but the laws regarding lolicon would be useful to reference. Now we know what you're concerned that they'll censor with Tokyo's bill.

And your sig is too big.

[Arch-Defender]

I actually never saw the show, only read the Wikipedia article. I usually don't read the plot of a show before I have seen it so I won't spoil it so this is why I was asking about it.

[Jatz]

You don't look at the plot? Then who do you know if it's something you're interested in?

Your signature is still too big.

[Arch-Defender]

I check the title and the cover and if I like it I check it out. If a show receives a lot of praise or attention from fans and media I will watch it as well but it's working great, I have only been desapointed once or twice (Ghost in the Shell movie and Comic Party Revolution) so far. Also, since I get my info from Wikipedia, I also look at what kind of show it is and I definetly like vampire shows.

[Arch-Defender]

I just checked the canadian stores info and the unedited release appears so I guess that answers my question.

[old hat]

Originally Posted by animefanworried

I actually never saw the show,

You should do that before saying that you know it is this and know it isn't that.

[Arch-Defender]

I know it's sold in the US and now Canada and since I know what's legal in anime here I know it can't be part of what's not.

[old hat]

and that's the same as saying you know it isn't a Lolicon anime how exactly? It
is not hentai but elements are obviously meant to appeal to a certain sort of person.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc22yJXZ5Vc
Watch that and tell me that isn't partially meant to appeal to people with a taste for a certain sort of girl. It doesn't have to be explicit to be Lolicon.

Remember people mentioing shows that pushed what they could get away with in the other thread? This is one of them.

[Leader Desslock]

Originally Posted by animefanworried

I check the title and the cover and if I like it I check it out.

So now... think for a moment. Like most of us, you assume you're a normal person, right? You consider what you do to be normal, perhaps even typical, right?

Imagine that typical people (like you!) merely check a cover and a title before checking out a title.

Now imagine you saw a title like Dance In The Vampire Bund (a show about Vampires!), or Aki Sora (a high school romance!) and picked them up, not realizing just what each title really contains. So... rather than a Hellsing or Vampire Hunter D, you wind up with scenes of a prepubescent girl in lingerie, with sexual overtones. Rather than Cardcaptor Sakura or the harmless "sister complex" jokes of Mai-HiME, you end up with a title full of incest/rape hentai.

See the problem for "typical" consumers, when a title isn't clearly marked and separated for containing "adult-only" content?

Well, even if you don't, lawmakers in Tokyo do.

Originally Posted by old hat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc22yJXZ5Vc
Watch that and tell me that isn't partially meant to appeal to people with a taste for a certain sort of girl. It doesn't have to be explicit to be Lolicon.

****, that's all kinds of wrong. I knew this was a title I wanted to avoid, but... yeesh.

Originally Posted by old hat

Remember people mentioing shows that pushed what they could get away with in the other thread? This is one of them.

Seriously.