Ask John: Is Excessive Fan Service Bad for Anime?
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Question:
I know that sex sells, especially in anime industry. Just look at titles like High School DxD, Hagure Yuusha no Aesthetica, Hyakka Ryouran Samurai, To-LoveRU Darkness, Queen’s Blade series, and so on. However, I can’t help but wonder if the some studios are taking fanservice too far, adding in fanservice (especially when it makes no sense in context) just for the sake of making sales. Highschool of the Dead, Kakyuusei 2, and Kono Naka ni Hitori, Imouto ga Iru! with very little for them to distinguish themselves apart from other generic titles beside fanservice. Isn’t this bad for the industry if studios have to resort to fanservice to make money? Or is actually beneficial?
Answer:
We should keep in mind that in many cases, it’s actually not anime production studios themselves that decide which titles to animate; publishers, game developers, and production committees decide that they’d like to have a particular title turned into an anime then contract a studio of their choice to produce the animation. While screenwriters & directors have a degree of latitude in how they approach and adapt the anime series they’re hired to work on, they’re also influenced by the demands of the producers that hired them and the expectations of the consumers and viewers that will ultimately watch the anime. When a title gets an anime adaptation, the animators may need to enhance the original material with greater sex appeal or gratuitous exploitation in order to compensate for a visual blandness inherent in the original narrative. For example, a particular light novel may be interesting on the prose page due to its characters’ personalities and relationships. But anime is primarily a visual medium, so intricate character relationships and a variety of character personalities may be inadequate to make a conventional anime narrative stand out from its competition and gain viewer attention. Neither Kakyuusei 2 nor Kono Naka ni Hitori, Imouto ga Iru! proved to be especially popular anime series regardless of their inclusion of mild fan service. The High School of the Dead anime series wouldn’t have become nearly as popular and successful as it was if it had been the same show without its abundance of risqué humor and overt sexuality. It’s precisely the boobs, the sloppy romance, and the drunken nearly-naked girls that elevated the High School of the Dead anime series from ordinary action/horror with a cast of moderately unpleasant characters to an extraordinary widely-talked-about cult hit.
From an American perspective, one may naturally worry that such an incisive emphasis on gratuitous lechery may turn anime one-dimensional or compromise the dynamic integrity of anime, making it boring, predictable, and ultimately uninteresting. A look back at the long history of anime suggests that such fears are exaggerated, as anime has moved through many such cycles. In fact, it’s possibly exactly cyclical viewer fatigue that encourages anime to constantly evolve. The 1970s and very early 80s were heavily dominated by giant robot anime. But as viewers got overwhelmed by the genre, giant robots receded to make way for the prominence of other genres. The 1980s and early 90s remain famous for the prominence of anime shower scenes – fan service shots of nude girls bathing. In the mid and late 1990s, such fan service largely disappeared from anime. The early 2000s were typified by the emergence and popularization of the moé anime genre. Now, as we enter the second decade of the 2000s, moé anime is much less prominent than it was just a few years ago.
Due to the close interconnection between the anime creation and distribution industry and its consumers, the anime business has the ability to quickly recognize trends within its audience and the ability to rapidly respond to shifts in interest from its target audience. Japanese fans have a greater and more diverse passion for anime than Americans do, so Japanese fans are traditionally more likely to remain interested in any given genre, style, or emphasis in anime than American viewers. But even Japanese otaku eventually get exhausted by multiple consecutive years of intense attention on a particular trope. And it’s at that time that the anime development industry quickly transitions usually to an opposite trend to sustain rather than lose viewer loyalty.
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“The 1980s and early 90s remain famous for the prominence of anime shower scenes – fan service shots of nude girls bathing. In the mid and late 1990s, such fan service largely disappeared from anime.”
You seem to forget that anime started crossing over with U.S. consumers, in the 90s around that same time, and then stopped becoming lucrative here, when they brought back the quasi-softcore porn. So, there is a correlation between excess fanservice and lower demand.
“Now, as we enter the second decade of the 2000s, moé anime is much less prominent than it was just a few years ago.”
That’s because people are effing sick and tired of it. Moe is the equivalent of MTV-type reality shows. Cheap carny garbage that they’ve somehow scammed people into paying top dollar to invest in.
These tirades appear to be cute GATS.
No, seriously, I hope John outright bans you.
Your criterions are highly based upon your tastes and perspectives, and because of this, you aggressively push this on others as some sort of agenda you have for the anime fan world.
You blame fanservice. You blame all sexuality in the world. You blame other fans, and you most of all blame Moe.
But in the end, John is right, because Anime wasn’t made in mind entirely for your self entitled deluded ass and the legions of other vindictive, egotistic, romance and respect deprived idiots like you out there lurking on the internet. And mind you, the American side of the internet.
Just because a nation decides that they’re going to do something that’s culturally relevant to their own culture, and it “clashes with what you desire out of anime”, while you struggle with your own domestic issues regarding socialcultural problems regarding the US, and especially with how Anime is regarded here, then vent it out in some form of pathetic low some ranting sure helps put you and the rest of people like yourself on the bottom of the barrel.
IE, TL;DR, Japan or any country in the world doesn’t have to cast off its cultural contexts and suck off your genitals for your own self satisfaction, and especially over trivial things over entertainment. If you find anime nowadays to “suck” and “not be how it used to be”, I’d suggest getting your ass off of the self pity pit, the computer you use to hardly make a difference in reality by venting stress, and make your own damn anime, or get out and wallow in reality with your poor pissass burn out hipster self. Or stay on the internet, I don’t care. I don’t have time for your pedantries and e-arguments.
“No, seriously, I hope John outright bans you.”
Why? For telling it like it is?
“Your criterions are highly based upon your tastes and perspectives, and because of this, you aggressively push this on others as some sort of agenda you have for the anime fan world.”
It’s not perspective. It’s fact. The female fanbase for anime started growing as soon as they toned down the sleaze. When they brought the sleaze back, the demo returned to its status as a sausage fest.
“But in the end, John is right, because Anime wasn’t made in mind entirely for your self entitled deluded ass and the legions of other vindictive, egotistic, romance and respect deprived idiots like you out there lurking on the internet.”
Perhaps, but it wasn’t made entirely for Nazi fetishists who stalk idols and who buy harem shows specifically made to sell doujinshi porn.
“Just because a nation decides that they’re going to do something that’s culturally relevant to their own culture, and it “clashes with what you desire out of anime”, ”
It’s not the ‘nation’, because most Japanese animators are sick of moe, too. That’s why they’re branching out to form their own studios. It’s a bunch of light novel publishers and software developers who colluded to shut out the creatives in the industry, specifically so they could cash in on fanboys willing to pay top dollar for mediocre product. The American equivalent would be Pixar, Dreamworks and Sky Blue flooding the market with overpriced CG kiddy flicks which keep low-budget indie animators with more mature stories from finding an audience.
It’s a rare occurrence, but I disagree with John regarding High School of the Dead. It’s the one show I wish weren’t overun with fan service, and I likes teh boobz. A zombie apocalypse anime would sell on its own, and I wish the drama weren’t overwhelmed with the ridiculous boob physics. I’m not saying I didn’t enjoy these on their own, but I felt it undermined a solid show.
GATS: I hear the “anime sucks now” from older fans all the time. It’s different than previous eras, and I do find myself gravitating to older titles these days. However, there are still a lot of quality shows out there. If you’re not a fan of what’s new, support Anime Sols and Diskotech; they need all the help they can get from the few folks still buying older anime!
@GATS
” You seem to forget that anime started crossing over with U.S. consumers, in the 90s around that same time, and then stopped becoming lucrative here, when they brought back the quasi-softcore porn. So, there is a correlation between excess fanservice and lower demand.”
” Moe is the equivalent of MTV-type reality shows. Cheap carny garbage that they’ve somehow scammed people into paying top dollar to invest in.”
Ya know I really try to keep my cool most of the time but I have my limits. Listen you self absorbed nostalgiaic egotistical prick did ever occur to you that moe wasn’t some scam but it was made because people like it? Its one thing to tell us moe fans that what we like is garbage and its another to tell us that we’ve been “scammed” into something you don’t like.
Japan doesn’t have some mandate to kiss your whiny entitled lazy ass. If you are so dissatisfied with the way anime is why don’t you just shut the fuck up and make your own anime. And I am with the poster who wishes John would ban you not because of your taste but because your sheer arrogance in saying “Nobody with any actual taste would like this garbage!”
Fuck you and your elitist attitude.