Ask John: Why do Even American Otaku Hate Lolicon?
|Question:
Why is lolicon so reviled in American anime fandom? Seems whenever the issue of morality and how it’s not actually causing harm arises, it still falls on deaf ears.
Answer:
The American reaction to lolicon art is symptomatic of a larger ideological difference between American and Japanese culture and social psychology. Regardless of perceptions of independence, American society perceives government and society as existing to serve the individual. Americans have the opportunity to excel, but simply by virtue of being American, we also have the opportunity to expect our government and society to to responsible to us, to serve, support, and protect us. This philosophy is actually subconsciously extended to the extent that American society and government has a responsibility to serve and protect those that cannot defend or support themselves, and maintain a common level of civility and decency among all citizens. In other words, American society is perceived to have an obligation to protect children – even hypothetical ones – as well as defend the average moral justice of its populace. The very foundation of the American legal definition of obscenity is not defined by any specific action, theme, content, or depiction, but rather by the collective attitude of the general populace. In simple terms, if “the community” finds something offensively obscene and lacking in artistic credibility, than it legally is obscene.
Japanese society is slightly different in the regard that Japanese individuals serve the society and government, which reciprocates. While Americans fundamentally presume that society and government exists to take care of them, Japanese culture places greater focus on the individual being responsible for himself. Of course, Japanese government and society must do whatever is necessary to promote order and productivity, but Japanese society doesn’t inherently presume a need to legislate and mandate morality; individuals and families, rather than government, do that. So Japan, largely, adheres to the pragmatic belief that allowing artists and individuals to express their sexual proclivities does no harm to society and should be governed by the individual. America, on the other hand, presumes that society and the government has a fundamental obligation to ensure that one person’s imagination and personal expression stay corralled within the acceptable confines of “community standards” and not potential offend or harm anyone else. Americans certainly have freedom of expression, but only until the exertion of personal expression begins to unduly compromise someone else, even if that “someone” is hypothetical.
Although American maintains a separation of religion and government, America was founded upon Christian principles, and those Christian principles continue to influence and determine countless social and governmental policies. Americans agree that the exploitation of children is immoral. So Americans presume that their government has an obligation to do whatever is necessary to prevent the exploitation of children. Although fictional depictions of child pornography have never been scientifically proven to actually harm children, they’ve also never been proven not to be a threat to children. Therefore, Americans presume that their society and government should err on the side of caution, and must expunge material which offends common sensibilities and may possibly harm Americans. Japanese citizens, who subconsciously presume that they themselves, rather than their government, should define their morality and behavior, and who aren’t traditionally influenced by the Christian insistence on imposing personal morality onto others, don’t presume that the government should squash anything which might possibly offend or harm someone somewhere in some vaguely defined way.
While American anime fans do tend to emerge from the more liberal fringes of American society, even most of them are still influenced by the assumptions of their community and upbringing. While American anime fans may be more receptive to provocative imagery and ideas than the most conservative Americans, they’re still influenced by the perceptions and expectations that they were raised with. Furthermore, some of the American otaku community’s objection to lolicon may be elevated defensive reaction. Since animation and comics themselves are a fringe medium in America, already perceived as the territory of children and counterculturists, American otaku may instinctively savage the most fringe aspects of their own community as an instinctive defensive maneuver. “I may like cartoons, but even I have limits. Even I don’t support lolicon,” may be the subconscious effort to earn legitimacy.
Add a Comment
You must be logged in to post a comment.
Oh you bloody puritans; the core idea of a legal definition depending of the views of a bunch of foolish plebs is just against any notion of legal certainty. What good did to stupid Americans to have Hans Kelsen lecturing in your ridiculous “universities” ¬_¬
I know you wrote in English but I am finding it hard to figure out what point you are getting at.
I’d just like to point out that even though were are a country that is so publicly scared of sex, those real puritans back in the day would have less of an issue with lolicon than we do!
@YotaruVegeta: So, you don’t understand what you read, regardless it was perfectly written? then you need to turn off the computer & turn on your brain (if any)
No, I understand what I wrote, because I wrote it. By the way, I am having trouble completely understanding your most recent post. No need to get saucy. What you have written is not amazing prose.
The way you write honestly feels like it is done in broken English. I’m not being some jerk, or a troll. I don’t know you, and I have nothing to gain to belittle you.
I understood the thrust of your post, but it does not make complete sense in terms of sentence structure.
I apologize. The fault is partially mine because I composed this response in very academic discourse, and I may not have made my points as clearly as I could have because I literally just wrote this response off the top of my head and posted it – no revision.
My primary arguments are that Americans are used to believing that America is supposed to defend against anything that could possibly harm Americans. Therefore America has a responsibility to oppose lolicon. Japan, on the other hand, believes that you should take care of yourself, so the government doesn’t need to “protect” you from lolicon.
Furthermore, if you’re American, regardless of whether you’re Christian or not, you’ve been influenced by Christian values. So just by being raised as an American, you’ve probably got a natural opposition to anything that could even possibly by child porn.
Even though I am an American and I was raised with Christian values, I never saw anything wrong with lolicon in general. Now I have seen some dojunshi lolicon stuff that crossed my line of acceptance, however I think some people need to get off the idea that society knows what it right for everyone.
I think that when people find fault with lolicon, it is specifically when it comes to sexual acts involving underage children. Are you saying you have no issues with sexual fiction involving characters who are children?
You forgot the part where Japan recently instituted a number of laws to protect the public from exposer to pornography or any mature material. A law that left a lot of non-explicit manga and anime being group into a section it should not. While Japan usually takes a pretend it didn’t happen and let the individual police themselves, they seem to be take steps now to actively protect teens and children.
“Japanese society doesn’t inherently presume a need to legislate and mandate morality”
Realllly? What about the fact that actual photographic pornography published in Japan can’t even show genitalia? The historical definition of obscenity in Japanese law has been just as muddled and conflicted as the American definition. It seems to me that there’s little difference in how sexual morality is legislated between the US and Japan – the main difference is that American publishers are happy to put out whatever they want, risking occasional judicial crackdowns, whereas Japanese publishers try their best to stay under the legal radar.
Is that legislation or self censorship? In some pornography (at least) starring japanese AV stars, the genetalia is not censored.
Also, as it was described to me, the genitalia is not mosaic-ed because it is obscene. It is some off-center explanation that it is for the performers themselves, not for the audience’s eyes.
Article 175 of Japan’s Penal Code, dating back to 1907, prohibits distribution, sale, public display or possession for the purpose of sale of “obscene documents, drawings or other objects”. The exact definition of obscenity is, as it is in American jurisprudence, varied and inexact. The fact is, Japan has laws against obscenity, people are occasionally prosecuted for obscenity, and publishers and content creators take effort to stay on the right side of the law.
The idea that Japan is reluctant to legislate based on morality is a fiction. The lie is put to this most clearly and most recently by the Tokyo legislature’s Bill 156.